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Fat Pixels

Discussion in 'V-System' started by bladdered, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. bladdered

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    Fat pixels took the credit for the CFV-16 producing image quality well above it's weight. I can testify to that and have been perfectly happy with files out of this.

    What happened when the sensor size increased and the pixels lost weight with the CFV-39 and further dieting with the CFV50 ? Did quality improve and character stay at least the same; or did it just get more clinical ?

    I love square and I like wide and I've found the 16 a bit limiting at the taking stage with it's crop factor. I've been considering a move to the 39 (used) for a short while and just been surprised with the launch of the 50 and then low and behold the H4-31. The latter sounds interesting, but I don't warm to it's ergonomics and appearance, whereas the V Series never looks less than spectacular to me and I have 4/5 of the lenses that will keep me smiling for a long time.

    So, if anyone can demonstrate/illustrate what's happened to image quality through this ride, I'd be grateful. These days my photographic interest is focussed on urban landscape/street life/informal portraits/ and weddings. Prints are nearly always printed on 18x12" paper by a commercial printer and often in B&W. Internet Forum posting is very relevant.

    p.s. in the background is a full darkroom and an Imacon 848 scanner.

    Many thanks. :)
     
  2. blowupster

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    Hard to answer in fact.
    With a 39Mpix anti moiré filter is some time necessary, so a 39x1.4 = 55 mpix for the same size has probably a meaning.
    Any way the big step between 16 to 39Mpix is "usable 800asa" and biger size sensor. From 39 to this CFV-50 it seams that only number is better. Perhaps 50Mpix will not give so more details, but will give more realistic transitions.
    I tested the M9 after 2 years of M8: I printed pictures in 50x75cm to see that is visible: the M8's one seams very...digital !
    I suspect that zeiss lens are able to give good surprises even with more than 50Mpix.
     
  3. bcphoto

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    To Bladdered

    Bladdered,

    I chose the Phase One P25+ back (V series) for the "fat" 9 micron pixels and the fact that it is a 1.1 crop factor and can be rotated for vertical framing. I'm happy with the results.

    BC
     
  4. bensonga

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    Fat Pixels still live on....even 8 years after the last post to this thread on the old forums. For me, those include a Hasselblad CFV-16II, Phase One P25+ and Leaf Aptus II 5. Any others here who are still using "fat pixel" medium format digital backs?

    Gary Benson
    Alaska
     
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  5. bensonga

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    Just added to my gallery one of the first photos I took with my 503CW and CFV-16II. I hope we will see more "fat pixel" images here soon.

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. dirk

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    The CFV-16II will offer at a relative low price also the entry into digital MF for MF starters.
     
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  7. bensonga

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    Here is a cropped version of the last photo I took with my CFV-16II. I am ashamed to say it was taken in October 2011. :-(

    Gary

    503CW, CFV-16II, 100mm f3.5 CFi
    A0000069 Graffiti on Rocks v2 P2048.jpg
     
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  8. bensonga

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    Here is the original image...only slightly cropped.

    Gary

    A0000065 Peace on Rock v2 P2048.jpg
     
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  9. dirk

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    I love the colours and transparancy!
     
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  10. jotloob

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    Gary
    Do you still have and work with your CFV16-II ?
     
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